My dear, sweet loving cousin from Colorado posted this well-thought-out comment back in the archives, but it's a debate he wants....so we throw it to the forefront. I'm now refering to the comment below. I reposted it here for the reader to truly experience the "gut punching," that I did. Here it is:
(I TOOK THE LIBERTY OF INSERTING MY OWN COMMENTS AND REACTIONS INTO CUZ KEV'S THEORIES/COMMENTS. MY COMMENTS ARE IN BLUE.)
Ok. I really love this kind of stuff. The more controversial the subject matter the better, so I do have something to say about this. Forgive me you guys, but this is a political issue as well as a religious one and I always feel prompted to jump right out there and project my opinion on issues of this nature. Bear in mind that this is not meant to judge what you did (YES IT IS!) by dropping the class. You did what you had to do, which is fine, but you also allowed your personal beliefs to get in the way of your education in a fantastic subject. (I BEG TO DIFFER!) I think maybe the author/instructor misnamed the chapter and that is what set you off on it. (NICE TRY BUT NOT A CHANCE...I READ THE CHAPTER...IT WAS NUTS!) A more proper title might have been, "Religious beliefs of America and the World", (IF THAT'S THE CASE, I'M MOVING TO MARS!) which may have come across a bit less assaultive. Anything that lends itself to a faith belief is considered a religion, including witchcraft, wiccan, paganism and shamanism. (I LEARNED ABOUT SHAMANS ON LAW & ORDER ALREADY.) And it depends on who is doing the determination as to where it ranks in society. All through history there is evidence of cultures having a belief system in place that includes one or more higher powers. (THAT RIGHT THERE--- IS EVIDENCE TO ME THERE THERE IS ONE.) Shamanism is typical of our own native American tribes. Some have been determined to have been misunderstood physical abilities such as witchcraft. (ARE YOU REFERING TO THOSE WHO HAD HALLUCINATIONS FROM EATING THE MOLDY BREAD THAT WERE FOUND TO BE WITCHES?) The ones with more than one higher power was labeled as paganistic. The idea behind the class was to teach you about the vast diversity in different cultures and within each culture. It would seem that those subjects were part of the history of such. Now, I dont mean to upset anyone, (YEAH RIGHT!) especially Darla, but this is why a seperation of church and state has any importance at all. The 80% of Americans that do believe in God enjoy the freedom to pursue that belief, (AND THAT BELIEF BRINGS US JOY, HAPPINESS, PEACE, COMFORT, BLESSINGS AND HOPE) but outside of that you must also maintain your perspective on the environment (1. I KNOW THE AIR IS SMOGGY IN THE SUMMER, CLEAN IN THE WINTER, 2. I'LL NEVER GO BACK TO THE AROMA OF TACOMA! HOW'S THAT?) and obvious circumstances that surround you in your life and all aspects of where we live today. That means you should keep an open mind to all subject matter available to you in the pursuit of your education and stay focused on that while you are there, then apply your sense of spirituality to it for yourself. (THAT'S WHAT I DO...I HAVE SOME CHOICE AS TO MY CLASSES THOUGH.) Your beliefs say that God created all of this and the Bible tells you how he did it. (THE BIBLE DOESN'T NECESSARY GIVE US EVERY SINGLE MICROSCOPIC DETAIL. THERE IS EVIDENCE AS TO EVOLUTIONAL THEORY. GOD WORKS THROUGH NATURAL LAWS. HE IS THE AUTHOR OF IT ALL. ALL THINGS IN NATURE ARE EVIDENCE OF A GOD---EVEN A CUT HEALING WITHIN DAYS IS MIRACULOUS!!) To many, His method sounds farfetched at best. Maybe its the method that the story was being told for the simplicity of the day that brings that opinion. In any event, you believe that He did it that way. (I DON'T CLAIM TO KNOW HOW HE DID IT. I JUST FIND IT MUCH EASIER TO BELIEVE THAT HE DID DO IT---RATHER THAN BELIEVING THAT ALL THINGS GOT HERE FROM A BIG BANG. I'VE SEEN THE AFTERMATH OF AN EXPLOSION AND IT'S NOTHING LIKE THIS BEAUTIFUL EARTH WE LIVE ON). Ok, so now we live in a day that has many wonderful technologies that go straight to the subatomic level of explaining how things happen. The story just got more detailed is all. Science can tell you exactly how God did it. Thats how it should be looked at. (YES, I ABSOLUTELY AGREE AND LOVE STUDYING SCIENCE!!!) I guess my point is that you were made with an empty head to start with (I BEG YOUR PARDON! I'LL TELL YOUR MOTHER ON YOU!---HAHA!) but have the capacity to absorb and learn so much in your lifetime. (OK, I'M WITH YOU AGAIN.) He made you this way and intended for you to do so and didnt limit you on how much you could learn. You insert your own limitations. It sounds to me as if your teacher wasnt including modern mainstream religions in her book, (NOPE, NOT A ONE! I DIDN'T RECOGNIZE ANYTHING IN THERE EVEN CLOSE TO THE GOD I KNOW AND LOVE) but isnt anthropology a study of ancient societies and their beliefs? (THIS CLASS WAS SPECIFICALLY "SOCIAL ANTHROPOLOGY IN AMERICA") I think you should have stuck with the class and saw how it turned out or called the teacher and got some clarification first. I'm not trying to lecture, (YOU ARE TOO!) I hope, but please dont be angry with me. (HMMMM....I'LL THINK ABOUT THAT...)Sometimes you have to take a deep breath and press onward to learn new things. (YOU SHOULD HAVE SEEN ME LAST SEMESTER. DON'T TELL ME I DON'T LEARN NEW THINGS...GOT THE HIGHEST SCORE IN BOTH CLASSES I MIGHT ADD......again.) Especially when they come close enough to bring out the fear factor. After that infamous bike ride 35 some odd years ago, I seriously doubt that you fear much these days, LOL, (JUST COMMENTS LIKE THIS ONE! HAHA!) but why do you think you dropped the class? (SEE BELOW...) Knowing where some of that stuff came from might give you insight to not be so concerned over it as a threat to your own beliefs, (NOT A THREAT TO MY BELIEF, BUT I FEEL IT TO BE OFFENSIVE TO GOD, AS IT IS SOMETHING THAT SENDS PEOPLE IN A DIRECTION AWAY FROM HIM...ALL CHEAP SUBSTITUTES FOR TURNING TO GOD IN PRAYER & ASKING FOR HIS HELP....ie. voodoo, psychics, palm readers, sorcery, curses, spells, etc.) besides, youre pretty well grounded. I love reading up on stuff like that. Of course, I love science-fiction, fantasy and occult literature. I can sit in a dark room on Friday the 13th on a full moon during a blackout with a raging lightning storm outside and watch The Texas Chainsaw Massacre and love every second of it. (I'M BETTING YOU'RE ALONE ON THOSE OCCASIONS...) The Amityville Horror too! The Ring, (MY 15 YR. OLD SON WAS TRAUMATIZED FOR 2 WEEKS AFTER SEEING THAT AND COULDN'T SLEEP FOR NIGHTS----WASN'T WORTH IT! NEVER ASKED TO SEE A HORROR FLICK AGAIN! THINGS THAT ARE FROM GOD RESULT IN PEACE, COMFORT, HAPPINESS, JOY & GOOD WORKS.) The Grudge, hell, you name it. But its kinda cool to have some background knowledge of where some of that stuff comes from (ALLOW ME TO SPELL IT OUT, IN THE WORDS OF THE SNL "CHURCH LADY" S-A-T-A-N!) and also that it wont exist for you unless you believe in it and go looking for it. (I BELIEVE IT EXISTS IN THE WORLD WHETHER ANYONE WANTS TO BELIEVE IT OR LOOK FOR IT....JUST TUNE IN TO THE NEWS! I PROMISE YOU'LL SEE EVIL REARING ITS UGLY HEAD AGAIN AND AGAIN.) But, history is good too. Alot more boring, but good. You'll get brought up to date on all the wars, mass murders by radical regimes, hurricanes that killed millions, typhoons, 9-11, volcanic eruptions, rise and fall of different civilizations, basically all there is to know about how violent we as a people are. (THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THEY SAID.) Youre also gonna learn about how old the world is and how it became the way it is today. They may hit on the evolution of living species and systems on the planet. Bear in mind, these subjects are going to be from scientifically studied and proven points and facts based on the concept of tested knowledge, rational thought, common sense and a multitude of other factors, therefore, the Biblical possibility most likely will not be brought up because its not Bible study, its school, so dont get upset. (UPSET? I LOVED EVOLUTIONARY PSYCHOLOGY LAST SEMESTER! THEY DID BRING UP GOD AND SAID THAT THE HUMAN GENOME PROJECT FOUND THE GENETIC CODE CONSISTS OF 30,000 GENES. SAME WITH THE MOUSE AND THEY'RE ALL IDENTICAL TO THE HUMAN'S EXCEPT FOR 300! THE TEACHER SUGGESTED THAT IS EVIDENCE TO MANY THAT THERE IS ONE MASTER CREATOR AND THAT IS WHY ALL CREATIONS ARE SO SIMILAR IN MAKE UP.) In the other class you would have learned about all the things they believed in that drove different societies to do what they did. Maybe you should consider taking them both. Hope I didnt enrage the troops with this one. (PROBABLY NOT, JUST ME FOR A LITTLE BIT....I FEEL BETTER NOW... HAHAHA!) Love you all.........Kev.
I had a feeling my Colorado cousin might be most disappointed in my "duck and run" approach to Anthropology, as he was most excited about my taking it. Actually, he and my husband (Mark, at first) were tied as to their enthusiasm with my taking the course. Well, cousin, you are certainly related to "Papa"/Uncle Dave if debating issues is what you love best.
As I understand it, I'm being accused of allowing my personal beliefs to pull my head into the sand and refuse to educate myself on witches, wickans, wackos, snake handlers, and other rare America oddities. Well, now how can that be? Take a look at me last Halloween. Just how much closer do I need to get to the subject? Do I look scared?

Talk about people being afraid of something, my husband and kids were afraid of ME that night! Unfortunately as the years go by, it's easier trying to perfect the witch costume, rather than the other top girly favorite, the Fairy Princess. Even so, my husband begged me to never do the witch thing again, but promised he'd be thrilled with my costume efforts going in any direction other than that one! (For the record, those aren't my real eyebrows----or I'd have a couple hours blocked out at the salon for waxing ASAP!)
I learned something from attending the funeral of one of the kindest, elderly men you could ever meet named Oren Maxwell. His middle-aged son mentioned that whenever an issue arose when they were kids, their dad would open the scriptures and say, "We'll let's see what the Lord has to say about it..." He would then read a passage from the Bible and make it clear to his children that he didn't make up "the rules."
That was about ten years and I've been doing the same with my kids ever since. So, forgive me, but I will proceed to talk to my dear cousin like I would to my kids, by saying: "Let's see what the good Lord says on the subject:"
Romans 16:19 "For your obedience is come abroad unto all men. I am glad therefore on your behalf: but I would have you be wise unto that which is good, and simple concerning evil."
Galatians 5:19-23
Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
When the school gives me the choice, I will not be choosing to intentionally educate myself on subjects that conflict with my feeling "love, joy, peace, goodness," etc. and just remain... "simple concerning evil."
Confidential to Kevin: All right cousin, go ahead and toss something back. I've got my baseball glove on now, and I'm ready! Still love you...wouldn't trade you for anything....might trade out some of your movies though...that's all : D